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If interested you can find my work on TD Commons under my name as I only have three posted papers.

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Paul,

I really enjoyed your piece on the open evidence graph. I think there may be a useful intersection between what you’re building and some work I’ve been doing around claims and evidence in AI systems.

I want to be careful not to re-describe your project in my terminology. A knowledge graph makes complete sense as the representation you’re trying to build.

What caught my attention was the problem underneath it.

For a shared evidence graph to connect claims across papers, researchers, institutions, and eventually AI systems, the participants need some common way of expressing what exactly is being claimed, what evidence bears on that claim, what the limits of that evidence are, and what has actually been established versus what remains unresolved.

That starts to look less like a graph problem alone and more like a claim representation problem underneath the graph.

The question I’ve been working on is essentially:

What has to be explicit about a claim before another system, evaluator, or person can interpret and evaluate it without silently supplying missing meaning?

My work separates the structure of the claim from the later determination of whether that claim is true. The standard should make a claim interpretable and its evidentiary basis inspectable; it should not quietly become the authority that decides the claim itself.

That distinction made me think immediately of your verification problem.

When you ask whether the correct theory and evidence were extracted, whether they were represented accurately, and whether the evidence was aggregated appropriately, I see several layers that may need to remain distinct:

claim representation → evidence relationship → graph representation → evaluation

The graph can connect those things extremely well, but interoperability ultimately depends on different participants agreeing on what those relationships mean.

That is where I suspect our work may overlap.

I’ve been developing a claim standard as part of a broader research effort around identity, observation, and bounded determination in AI interaction. I’m not suggesting it is the answer to what you’re building, but I think it may give us a useful common object to argue with.

I also appreciated that you don’t seem to want the graph to become an oracle. Your discussion of researchers tracing claims back to experiments, questioning assessments, and defending corrections struck me as particularly important. That human ability to inspect what has actually been established is very close to what motivated my own work.

If you’re interested, I’d be happy to send you the claims material and compare notes. I suspect we may be approaching the same underlying problem from two very different directions.

Brian

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